Irish History Related

Ghilly:

                Gilli, gilli, Ghilly, ghilli: I have searched for each online and gave up without finding any info. I have heard the word used to indicate a person of special talents. Such a person may be especially familiar with the Irish countryside. He might act as a guide. He might help one to catch a trout or salmon by hand, In a more distant time he could have been the right hand man of a fighting nobleman. He might have been a sort of Irish ninja and expert in the use of camouflage. He might be expert in a martial art. He would have the skills and talents of a huntsman.

                    There are those in Ireland who know the term and there were those who used it hundreds of years ago. The gilli I speak of would not be a Norwegian dancer. I have heard that their may be a similar word in Farsi with a similar pronunciation. Don't let that distract you.

                    It seems that I heard a lot than I know. If you know any more about ghilly please tell us about it. If the comments app here is still missing use the app of one of the associated blogs such as RCS Posts.

Irish Whistle:

                    I have been told that when it comes to men before a battle, that an Irish whistle can get them on their feet as little else can. But to keep them moving forward to battle, victory, death, or hell, it takes a good bagpipe and a good piper, even if be a Scot.

Organized Irish:

                    I have lived long enough to a grown man to nearly fall down from laughter at the mention of  "organized Irish." You may be convinced of their skill and effectiveness by looking at the Ireland of today. They are doing very well, thank you. By looking with some care at the history of not so long ago and  find out about the Clan na nGael, the Skibereen Phoenix Society, and Fenians in dear the worst of days you could learn about organization. In the US they organized grassroots politics, they helped develop good neighborhood policing, and they were in the front of the union movement. By looking a bit more one begins to see that their organizing goes back, back, and back. Hedge schools took co-operation which may be the first step in organization. Longer ago they were organized enough to bring Christianity back to and the greek Philosophers back to Europe when the truly need it. And stuff like that.

Scythians and Sakas:

                    I am finding some bits and pieces of the past difficult to put together or even to write a complete sentence about. Now I find it difficult to communicate with you. The comments app for this site is gone, taken, and no way has been found to replace it! What we can do is  to use our associated sites which retain the app for our communication. Use the app at any one of those sites, just tell us that you are doing so. If you are communicating about content on this site, just say that you communication deals with "Irish History Related" on the Mago Bill blog site.

                    Have you ever heard of ancient Iranians in Ireland. Some early Scot and Irish not only claim to have known them, but to be related to them! It has been said that some Irish gold work may be related to those Iranians. They may not have been called Iranians in those days of yore. They may have been called Scythian, Saka, Iranic, or something else.

Ogham Alphabet:

                    Others have said that in earlier times certain Irish sent a delegation of scholars from Ireland to the Eastern Mediterranean shores. Their purpose was to get help in developing  a phonetic alphabet from spoken Irish. It has been said to have been reported by some of these same scholars, that a noble Scythian helped them create an Ogham Alphabet. His name was said to be Fenius Farsaid. Now, who would make u a story like that. I was over 50 before I ever heard of a Scythian.

Danann:

                    Is there anyway the Judaic tribe of Dan could be related to the Irish Danann? How about tot the Danes of  Denmark or the blue Danube? I am beginning to believe that the Irish and the Dan fought on the side of the Phoenicians against the advance of the Roman legions. It's almost impossible not to believe that the Danann were real live people and that many Bronze Age Irish were related to them.

                    I could use some help in understanding some of these relationships. It seems certain that Phoenician and Irish became well known to each other. I am now beginning to believe that Scythians were known to Scot and Irish  and that Scot and Irish may have been pre-Celtic relatives who retained a conscious relationship from before and throughout the Iron Age.

                    I have many questions and could use a lot of teaching or just a few helpful suggestions. Here is a questions which arises at this moment. How did the Iberian peninsula, now of Spain and Portugal come to be called the Iberian peninsula? Your comments are read and enjoyed a much without answers as with.

                    My paternal great grandfather, Mago William Sheehan, was the namesake of a Phoenician Mago. 

Mago Barca: 

                That earlier Mago could have been Mago Barca of the late third century BC, or not. That Mago was Hannibal's brother and a Carthaginian general. He may have been a navigator and may have fought Rome with Irish and Dan. He was also the youngest son of Hamilcar of the Barcids.

Balearic Islands:

                    These Islands seem have an Irish connection of a sort. On Menorca, Mago Barca lent his name to the port city still called Port Mahon. Mago and Mahon do not sound much alike now, but the history of language is one of change.

                    Does not Mahon seem to have a bit of an Irish ring? I remember seeing photos of Balearic ladies in an ancient National Geographic magazine. They looked very much like my aunt Eleanor and my sister Geraldine. I was struck by their similarities.  Ah, yes, Mahon! The typical Mahon egg sauce, which has conquered the world, is Mayonnaise! In a visit to Ireland I found mayonnaise, but it seemed little popular. Still  isn't there another mayo something or other on the old sod? Do not think me capable of a nasty thought. You may have heard of Mayo county Ireland.

                    This is one of my less typical posts. Even so I would very much like to receive your comment.

                    There is more to come about Ireland and more is already available at History With RCS and ontheTimelines.

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Mago Bill One

 Mago Bill is a nickname I have given my paternal great grandfather

                

                

                I have used the name Mago Bill in recent blogs because I believe that it inspires me to give you some unusual and interesting backstories and histories in a variety of posts.

                My sister, the genealogist of our family, introduced me to existence of documentation of the life pf M. William Sheehan. His existence had not been known to us. We had not known his name nor that he had been our paternal great grandfather. As I remember, my sister showed me that he had probably been born in the far south of Ireland and that his parents had brought to the United States when he was very young. We soon discovered that the M in his name probably stood for Mago. to me he promptly became Mago Bill, my inspiration.

                Spanish speaking friend tell me that "mago" means magician. Some of the same friends tell me that the three kings or three wise men of Christmas who brought gifts to the infant Christ were call "magos." I have found that  Mago was an important name among the Carthaginian Phoenicians before Rome came of age. Some of that name knew Hannibal well.

                Carthaginian traders and traders and navigators came to Ireland to trade for tin an other commodities. They brought so much knowledge of the name Mago with them that it impressed some of the people there. So much that they used it. For hundreds of years the name Mago has experienced some on an off popularity in Ireland.

                You may have read before that my paternal great grandfather was named and called Mago William Sheehan and that I have called him Mago Bill. You have even read that he, as many and Irish lad from time to time, was named after a famous Carthaginian. However, have you remembered me writing of Mago Barca?

    

                Barca could have been that famous Carthaginian Phoenician of the late third century BC, or not. Mago Barca was Hannibal's (yes, that Hannibal) brother. He may well have been a navigator and also have fought Roman legions in Iberia accompanied by Irish and Dan. He was the youngest son of Hamilcar of the Barcids.

                The above has prompted my to think of the Balearic Islands and food. The   Balearics seem to have an Irish connection of a sort. On Menorca, Mago Barca lent his name to the port city there which is still called Port Mahon. Mago and Mahon much alike to us today, but the history of language is one of change.

                Does not Mahon seem to have a bit of an Irish ring. I remember seeing  photos of Balearic ladies long ago. They looked very much like my aunt Eleanor and sister Geraldine. My sister would probably agree that she was and is better looking than was my aunt. The Balearic ladies of the photos were all attractive and I was struck by their similarity to Eleanor and Gerry.

                Ah, yes, food! Mahon, the typical Mahon egg sauce of the island, that has conquered the world, is Mayonnaise! On a visit to Ireland, I found mayonnaise still moderately appreciated. Still isn't there another mayo something or other on the old sod. Do not think me capable of a nasty thought. You may have heard of Mayo County, Ireland.

                I seem to be on a bit of a roll. I thought of another couple of miscellaneous bits to add here. Gilli, gilly, ghilli, and ghilly is only one of them. I've searched for each online with no luck. I had a friend who's Irish mother spoke of having a gilli in the family. This was many years ago and I had heard of ghilly long before that. A ghilly is an Irishman, across centuries he has been one of particular talents. He can be one especially familiar with the Irish countryside. He might act as a guide. He might help one to catch a trout or salmon by hand. In amore distant time he may have been the right hand man of noble warrior. He might have been a sort of Irish Ninja and expert in the use of camouflage. He might have been expert in a martial art. He would have the skills and talents of a huntsman. If  you have heard more of ghilly tell us a bit. This is supposed to be an interactive site.

                There are still those in Ireland who know the term and there were those who used it hundreds of years ago. The gilli I speak of is unlikely t have been a Norwegian dancer. I have heard that there may have been a similar word with a similar pronunciation and, perhaps, meaning.

                I may have heard more than I know.

                The Irish whistle comes to mind and reminds me that  there is also an Irish bagpipe. Could the bagpipe have also been a Fir Bolg instrument? I have been told that when it comes to men before a battle, that an Irish whistle can get them on their feet as little else can.. But to keep them moving forward to battle, victory, death, or hell, it takes a good pipe and a good piper, even if it be a Scot.

                

                Thanks for reading.

                

                                                                                RCS  

Mago Bill: Yes; this is related to my Irish great grandfather, Mago William Sheehan, it is more about the Balearic Islands, Hannibal, and a book.

Another early Mago was Mago Barca of the late third century BCE. He was Hannibal's brother and a Carthaginian general. He was also the youngest son of Hamilcar Barca of the Barcids. 

The Balearic Islands seem to have an Irish connection of some sort. On Menorca Mago Barca lent his name to the city still called Port Mahon. Does not Mahon seem to have a bit of an Irish ring? The typical Mahon egg sauce that has conquered the word is known as mayonnaise! Isn't there a mayo something  something or other on "the old sod?"

I believe that there is a book about this Mago that you may enjoy reading it's by David Anthony Durham,   Pride of Carthage


by Richard Sheehan
for Mago Bill