Showing posts with label Carthaginians. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Carthaginians. Show all posts

Saturday, January 7, 2023

Mago Bill Has a History

 

            You may remember Mago Bill as the name of some of my earlier blogs. Well, now in my dotage, I am beginning the resurrection of one or those Mago blogs. You may remember that I believed that the given name of my paternal great grandfather was Mago William. While that Mago may have been called Will, he may never been called Bill, but it makes me smile to do so.

            My, somewhat imaginary, Mago Bill has inspired my interest in history and supported my political vision.

            Thoughts of Bill, Mago Bill, lead me to the following. The Phoenicians had certainly heard of Atlantis, but that fabled land had been lost for thousands of years before these Phoenicians posted themselves near the Pillars of Hercules. Those pillars may have been called the Pillars of Atlas, or even the gates of Atlas. They certainly guarded the way to the great Atlantic Sea and to the isle beyond the Western Isle.

            The paragraph above led me to thoughts of many stories, but I will stick to my notes on those who knew the name “Mago” well.

            They were a knowledgeable people whom we might now begin to call Carthaginians. They knew much of trade and navigation. They also knew of mining, metallurgy, the writing of languages, and of defense and attack on land and sea. They were seamen. They that the islands not too far beyond the Pillars not only contained gold, silver, lead, and tin, but also contained men who knew about mining and metal working. They may have known about the little people who could follow the veins of metal deep into the earth. Those Carthaginians knew that men all around their smaller sea valued tin for making their bronze.

            The name and perhaps title of Mago was well known among those Carthaginian Phoenicians. I have found the use of title among them as early as 750 BC. You may find that it was used much earlier. I do find strong evidence that they were carrying on trade with the Western Isles from 500 BC to 400 BC.

            The Magonids were a political dynasty of Carthage room about 550 BC to 340 BC. The dynasty began with Mago I, under whom Cartage became prominent among the Phoenician colonies in the western Mediterranean. Under the Magonids the Carthaginian Empire expanded to include Spain, Sardinia, Libya, and Sicily. Diodorus and Herodotus often better tell us of the doings and happenings of the Magonids more honestly than do the Romans.

               There was a Mago II and then a Mago III who led the Carthaginians. There also seems to have been A Mago who commanded, or navigated for the trading fleet which connected the Western Isles to the Mediterranean. You may know, or have guessed, that the isle beyond the western Isle is the island nation we call Ireland.

           It might have been Mago, that knowledgeable ship-master, who so impressed a Sheehan as to name his, or her, son Mago. My great, great grandfather later called his son Mago William. That is a source of my inspiration to call a blog of mine “Mago Bill.”

            I am inspired to post more on Mago and Mago Bill.

            Thank you for reading this short which I hope you have found pithy. Would you enjoy a longer piece. What would you like to read more about?

       

 

                                                                                    RCS

 

 

Tuesday, April 20, 2021

Mago Bill

Mago Bill as my great grandfather and Mago as a name in history and prehistory

 
 
 
                 My great grandfather was probably a Munsterman even though his parents brought him to the States as a toddler. Munster has long been the name of an area in the far south of Ireland.
     
                More exactly,Mago Bill is a name I have given to my great grandfather, M. William Sheehan. Sheehan is a fine and interesting surname, but Mago attracts me more.
 
                Spanish speaking friends tell me that in Spanish mago means magician and the like. Some also tell me that "the three kings'' or "three wise men" of Christmas are called magos and that each of them is a mago. This seems interesting to me but may have been of no interest at all to my great grandfather.
 
                However, I have been told that before Rome came of age and in the early days of Carthage, that Mago was an important family name among the Carthaginian Phoenicians. I see that Magos where friends and family of a famous guy by the name of Hannibal.
 
                Magos were well known traders, navigators, and military leaders of Carthage. Carthaginian traders and navigators came to Ireland for a variety of reasons. The main reason was probably tin. In the Bronze Age and beyond tin was important because without it there was little bronze. The Irish of the day were metal workers, craftsmen, and artists. They were also miners, alchemists, poets, and lovers.They seem also to have been impressionable for they heard the name Mago often from the visiting Carthaginians that a few infants were called Mago. From that time and centuries on, the name Mago was from time to time quite popular on the island.
 
                The name Mago and Mago Bill have, from time to time, influenced and inspired my research and writing of history. On this blog you may expect essays and post were so influence of Mago may be detected. You will see his influence to on my history blog and on my timeline blogs. d
 
                Thanks for your visit and thank you for reading this post so you have an idea of the source of the name for this blog which was a sort of flagship for these blogs.


                                                                        RCS




Sunday, September 13, 2020

Mago Bill History Notes

Mago Bill Inspired History Notes

 

            You may remember Mago Bill as the name of some of my earlier blogs. You may remember that I believed that the given name of my paternal great grandfather was Mago William. While that Mago may have been called Will, he may never been called Bill, but it makes me smile to do so.

            My, somewhat imaginary, Mago Bill has inspired my interest in history and supported my political vision.

            Thoughts of Bill, Mago Bill, lead me to the following. An earlier Mago and the Carthaginians had certainly heard of Atlantis, but that fabled land had been lost for thousands of years before these Phoenicians posted themselves near the Pillars of Hercules. Those pillars may have been called the Pillars of Atlas, or even the gates of Atlas. They certainly guarded the way to the great Atlantic Sea and to the isle beyond the Western Isle.

            The paragraph above leads me to thoughts of many stories, but I will stick to my notes on those who knew the name “Mago” well.

            They were a knowledgeable people whom we might now begin to call Carthaginians. They knew much of trade and navigation. They also knew of mining, metallurgy, the writing of languages, and of defense and attack on land and sea. They were seamen. They that the islands not too far beyond the Pillars not only contained gold, silver, lead, and tin, but also contained men who knew about mining and metal working. They may have known about the little people who could follow the veins of metal deep into the earth. Those Carthaginians knew that men all around their smaller sea valued tin for making their bronze.

            The name and perhaps title of Mago was well known among those Carthaginian Phoenicians. I have found the use of title among them as early as 750 BC. You may find that it was used much earlier. I do find strong evidence that they were carrying on trade with the Western Isles from 500 BC to 400 BC.

            The Magonids were a political dynasty of Carthage room about 550 BC to 340 BC. The dynasty began with Mago I, under whom Carthage became prominent among the Phoenician colonies in the western Mediterranean. Under the Magonids the Carthaginian Empire expanded to include Spain, Sardinia, Libya, and Sicily. Diodorus and Herodotus often better tell us of the doings and happenings of the Magonids more honestly than do the Romans.

            There was a Mago II and then a Mago III who led the Carthaginians. There also seems to have been A Mago who commanded, or navigated for the trading fleet which connected the Western Isles to the Mediterranean. You may know, or have guessed, that the isle beyond the western Isle is the island nation we call Ireland.

            It might have been Mago, that knowledgeable ship-master, who so impressed a Sheehan as to name his or her son Mago. My great, great grandfather called his son Mago William. That is a source of my inspiration to call a blog of mine “Mago Bill.”

            In more recent history the name Mago appears from time to time. Here are a few examples. A historian writing in Ireland in 1691 AD writes of a count Mago. Another historian writes of a Mago county in the Ireland of 1829! A barony of Mago in Kerry has been written of. The name Mago has been found in county Clair and all over Ireland for hundreds of years. It is a respectable name if not common.

            I may be inspired to post more on Mago or Mago Bill.

RCS

 

Wednesday, October 18, 2017

"Mago" and the Phoenicians

Phoenicians                


                They had certainly heard of Atlantis, but that fabled land had disappeared thousands of years before the Phoenician posted themselves near the Pillars of Hercules. Those same pillars may once have been called the Pillars of Atlas or even the Gates of Atlas. They certainly guarded  the way to the great Atlantic sea and to the isle beyond the western isle. 

Those Phoenicians were a knowledgeable people who we might now begin to call Carthaginians. The knew much of trade and of navigation. They also knew of mining, metallurgy, language writing, warfare on land and sea. They knew that the islands not far beyond the Pillars not only contained gold, silver, and tin, but also contained men experience in mining and metalworking. They may even have known of the little people there who aided in the extraction of those precious metals from beneath the earth.

Carthage and the Carthaginians

                The name and title of Mago was very well known among those Carthaginian Phoenicians. I have found the use of the title among them as early as 750 BC. You my find that it was used much earlier. I do find strong evidence  that they were carrying on regular trade with Western Isles 500 and 400 BC.

The Magonids were a political dynasty of Carthage from about 550 to
340 BC. The dynasty began with Mago I, under whom Carthage became preeminent among the Phoenician colonies  in the western Mediterranean.  Under the Magonids the Carthaginian Empire expanded to include Spain, Sardinia, Libya, and erhas Sicily. Diodorus and Herodotus tell us Of the Magonids better than do most Romans.

Mago

                There was a Mago II and then a Mago III who led Carthaginians. There also seems to have been a Mago who commanded, or navigated for, the trading fleet which connected the Western Isles to the Mediterranean. You may know, or have guessed, that the isle beyond the western isle is now called Ireland. 


                It might have been Mago, that knowledgeable shipmaster, who impressed an early Sheehan and led him, or her, to adopt the name Mago for their son.  My Irish great grandfather had the name Mago William Sheehan. That is the source of the name Mago Bill for this blog.

                So, Mago Bill has a history.







by Richard sheehan
for Mago Bill








Thursday, June 15, 2017

Mago Bill: a little backstory

Mago Bill animates my connection to history, and more.
He connects me to the US and to the history of Ireland, and from there to history far and wide. "He" helps me to get far back into ancient history and prehistory. And, it seems that, there is a very far back.
* He seems to help me to explore time and space.
* He helps me to see aspects of the ageless wisdom teaching anew.
* He helps me to fresh views of governance, politics, and philosophy.

I need all the help I can get.

A Mago Bill may well have been my paternal great grandfather.

Mago is a very old Irish name, probably picked up from the Phoenicians or the Carthaginians. In the US the name seems to have given Mago some trouble. For there he began to sign his name M. William Sheehan.

                    Here it does not seem unreasonable to add a bit about the connection I feel between Mago and Sheehan. As a US citizen my paternal great grandfather was M. William Sheehan. As I have indicated earlier the "M" stood for Mago. Mago is not an easy name to carry in the U.S. William is a more well known in the US and many Williams are call Bill or Will. As I continue to explore her on thus blogsite, I find it historically significant. The name Mago Bill may be used only by me. I use it because it causes me to smile and site up straight. There are several post at this site that mention Mago, Mago Bill, or both. By looking you are likely to find something of interest to you.

 

 



RCS is the way I will note that a post an essay or the like is written by
Richard Carroll Sheehan